this was honestly a pretty decent premiere, it wasnt great but it wasnt flat out bad

i liked we actually got confirmation that shadow is wednesdays son although knowing wed he could be lying for his own means but its better than nothing

i liked tech boy but he was the same as he usually is so his "death" meant nothing cause in the season 2 finale he didnt come off all wild like he usually does

idk what the deal with mr world turning into ms world was or why crispin wasnt seen, im pretty sure that was an extra playing him

they did however show off mad sweeneys body

and sorry but i dont buy laura died, she'll be back i think

idk what the big deal with lakeside is, im sure that is a mystery in the book

Marilyn manson being there did nothing to interest me

and im impressed ms world tried to take out wednesday

but the problem that is consistent is he goes to gather more old gods, how many do we need exactly and what is the endgame of wednesday right now, that is a problem of the show, they have more characters than they can handle, too many gods on the table right now, i am all for some of them to start dropping like flies

and they had bilquis in this but still havent explained her fortune tied to shadow is about, that may never be solved

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You know... Honestly I wasn’t that much invested into this third season. From the first teasers we had it felt a bit too far away from the original book, I even had a feeling at a moment that this season would be a fanfiction of American Gods. So while I still was watching the news I wasn’t very much invested in it.

But now that I saw the full trailer... Don’t get me wrong there are still parts that I am dubious of, I’m waiting to see how they will play out but I’m not really invested in them... HOWEVER. This trailer promised me a lot of good and interesting things too. And these things sparked my interest - dare I say rose up a bit my hopes.

Sure, I am still dubious of how they will handle the character of Technical Boy, of the road Bilquis story will take, of the utility of Salim in the story, of the presence of the new leprechaun or of Shadow’s female “replacement” as Wednesday’s roadtrip budy...

BUT.... But I have to admit that the visuals are awesome. That the Backstage scene seems to have interesting material. That there is humor. That I am waiting the return of the Slavic gods. That the song won me over. However what REALLY sparked my interest, without a doubt, is the reveal that the “Spooks” are actually the Children, or at least Children-like creatures. Not only is this a nice nod to the original novel, but it is also a correction of the very bad way season 2 handled the Spooks and Mr. Town.

In conclusion? I will definitely look at this new season with interest and curiosity

With the "update" of the Wiki I just noticed that now when you click on the pictures in a gallery, they do not appear, and you can't even open them in new tabs or access the original file.

What's the trouble here? Do we need to use a different type of gallery?

So after seeing the latest promo which featured Bilquis I have been wondering if she is also based on the goddess Ishtar. While Bilquis is mentioned in some stories as being part jinn she is never referred to as a goddess and while in the book it could be explained she used sex as a form of sacrifice the show seems to have solidified this is something she has always done, only they don't die per say, merely live in some dimension of pure pleasure.

Now at first I assumed this could be explained as some new lore for her, but as we all know there can be multiple versions of a deity. So what if this Bilquis is a version of the queen of Sheba from the story of Solomon but what if this version is mixed with Ishtar, a goddess of sex, war, political power and justice.

We also know multiple versions of the same god can exist, since in the mythos deities are the result of human prayer, worship, belief and so on this is why we see so many versions of Jesus in the season one finale.

Now there are plenty of cases where religions would be mixed such as the Greek/Roman pantheon being mixed with the Egyptian pantheon, merging certain gods like Jupiter-Amun. So lets assume this is a version of Bilquis that had been merged with elements of Ishtar. What does that mean?

It means that Bilquis could potentially be one of the most powerful old gods, Ishtar herself was revered for her power but did have a huge ego and a bad temper. But if you replace that with the wisdom and patience of the queen of Sheba and that is truly formidable.

Now while she isn't worshipped as she once was, she has admitted that she has been growing in strength since she started using the New Gods technology to spread her worship.

I also find it interesting when I remember the talk she had with World, how she described love and war as two sides of the same coin which must never meet. If she is partly Ishtar she would know all about love and war. It also would explain why world wants her on his side.

What do you guys think? Could she be part Bilquis and part Ishtar? Will we see her fight and show off her power this season?

The interlude 2 chapter is the one Marguerite Olsen (Shadow's neighbour in Lakeside) calls her sister Sam and tells her that Alison McGovern has gone missing last week and that she's got a new neighbour.

However, I don't get why she says it's been only a week since Alison's disappearece because on chapter twelve, the one Shadow meets with goes "behind the curtains" with Wednesday and they stay gone for over a month.

Can anyone explain this to me? Am I looking too much into it or is this something that's going to be important later?

If it's the second option, as this is my first read, please just answer "KEEP READING" and I'll do so.

Thanks guys.

Btw, I'm not sure if I used the correct terms as I'm reading in portuguese version and the translation may vary. This is also Gaiman's prefered edition.

Can someone please explain the meaning of the coin and what is on both sides of it?

So, to take your last answers step by step.

1- What I meant is that it isn't fantasy in the typical sense. It is fantasy yes, but not in the sense of a Tolkien or Warhammer work. It is more of a urban fantasy. And even more, a urban fantasy for adults not one for teenagers. So things are more subtle. But after that, it is also Neil Gaiman's original style, he isn't a writer of huge titanic battles like Tolkien.However, if you want to have something with more supernatural powers and supernatural fights, I strongly suggest the Sandman, a comic book series by Neil Gaiman. It is about one of the seven most powerful being in the universe's "life", struggles and adventures across the multiverse, so it can't get less "godlike" than that Xp It is currently being adapted into a television series

2- You know... if after two seasons you still don't like the show, it means you won't be able to love it at all Xp I mean maybe you are trying to say that you loved season 1 then disliked season 2. If that's the case, please precise it. But if you say what you meant, that you disliked the show as a whole, I don't see what will make you love a potential third season... And technically "criticize" is a neutral word, for both good and bad criticism, so don't fret too much. That's why I suggested you headed here, to the forum.

3- I didn't know Neil was one of the writers of the show. From what I know, Neil actually had a smaller part than this, and even if he was a writer on the show he probably wasn't a major writer, only a minor one. I know he has a consulting role on the series - which allowed him to give guidance, councelling and advice on the show. That's why for exemple he could force (by convincing) the original showrunners to cut the "cemetery blowjob" scene. But he made it clear that it wasn't his show, that he wasn't the one adapting it, and that he was not really pleased with some of the elements of the show but that he couldn't control everything that happened there (he visits the sets from time to time and oversees some of the scripts, but again he doesn't have any major or active role in the creation of the show). For exemple, he said he didn't understood why the writers of the show decided to have Easter's episode in season 1, before Lakeside. He also apologized when it was pointed out on the Internet that Iktomi's actor wasn't a Native American, and he said he would talk with season three's showrunner to make sure it would not happen. But I never saw any source saying he had an actor writing role in either of the season.

I know the showrunners of season 1 shared a lot of things with Neil and asked his advice on many stuff because they respect him a lot - while the showrunner of season 2 was more distant and didn't reach as much to Neil, especially since Neil was busy preparing Good Omens at the time.

Hello, my name is Mystery Phantom and you can call me MP. I've recently got into this amazing franchise and wondered if theres a Fandom wiki for it, so here we are. So far, I only watched the series, but I'm going to read the novel soon (as an active user on both the Marvel and MCU wiki I know that mostly knowledge of the source material and original versions of a franchise are more appreciated then from the newer, more popular medium). I am also familiar with editing, so feel free to ask me for help if you need any.

I just stumbled upon this collaboration between Neil Gaiman and the Black Phoenix Alchemy Lab - a charitable project to produce perfumes and body oils based on American Gods. For this project they had an illustrator do official pictures of the characters of the book - it may be a good alternative for the somewhat dubious graphic novel pictures, these illustrations being much more faithful:

https://blackphoenixalchemylab.com/product-category/neil-gaiman/american-gods/

What do you think?

Now... I remember clearly that Neil Gaiman on his Tumblr answered to an ask that New Media was not Media but a distinct character.

I unfortunately don't have the current post right now, I am still looking for it, but as soon as I find it back I will ask for a separation of the pages of Media and New Media, because that would be an official confirmation.

Just a heads up to prepare you all to my campaign for the splitting Xp

In the first season, did they imply Vulcan was racist? Just in his short dialogue with Shadow Moon. The people in his town looked like neo Nazis...

I still don't get what is the thing about shadow moon, he is a god too? Or he will become one?

I would love to have some insight's.

Hello everyone - I'm here with another brief update from Fandom, this time regarding the Featured Video area. There are some experiments happening in order to determine is best for that area, one of which is The Loop, a mini-show produced by Fandom that talks about content based on the vertical that the topic is about (for this wiki, it would be related with TV and movies). For more information, you may visit the actual blog post about it.

If you are new to Fandom wikis and unsure what I'm talking about, Featured Video is a video that appears above the content area of articles (they are not seen by default for identified users).

If you have any questions about this at all, feel free to ask. Cheers!

Hello American Gods Wiki users!

I have been going around informing wikis about Fandom's newest blog about the Global Taxonomy project. To put it simply: the "related pages" between different wikis should start becoming more connected based on the relationship between their content.

So for example, for American Gods, if there are articles in common with another wiki (let's say for example... another Neil Gaiman related wiki), then these would be better connected in terms of sections of recommended pages to visit. This should be exciting - we will be able to start seeing some of this early next year.

For more information, feel free to check the blog post at Community Central.

See you around!

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